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[laughter] with the hearing said john brennan and chuck hagel, they stand in real contrast. whatever one thinks of the john brennan, he was in command, knowledgeable, assertive, direct, and made his own case. would that chuck hagel had the same -- >> lord high executioner. >> he wants the military -- he wants to move it to the military. >> he wants to get the cia back into the business of collecting intelligence and not paramilitary kinds of things. somebody is going to have to do that job, though. >> marco rubio, immigration, and the future of republican politics. >> are we serious about border security and employment verification? are we serious about making this the last, last time we have this conversation? or was simply playing political games with people's lives and undercutting the respect for the rule of law, which, ironically, is the very reason they seek to come to this country in the first place? >> that is a congressman from south carolina. a long time ago, ronald reagan said that hispanics were republicans who did not know it yet. if the last election is any ind
[laughter] with the hearing said john brennan and chuck hagel, they stand in real contrast. whatever one thinks of the john brennan, he was in command, knowledgeable, assertive, direct, and made his own case. would that chuck hagel had the same -- >> lord high executioner. >> he wants the military -- he wants to move it to the military. >> he wants to get the cia back into the business of collecting intelligence and not paramilitary kinds of things. somebody is going to have...
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[laughter] on the subject of the hearings, john brennan and chuck hagel, they stand in stark contrast. whatever one thinks about john brennan, and the disagreements are real, he was in command, knowledgeable, assertive, direct, and he made his own case. would that chuck hagel had the same level -- >> talk about our jobs, he has been lord high executioner -- >> and he wants to move it to the military. >> brennan does want to get the cia back into the business of collecting intelligence and of the paramilitary kinds of things -- not paramilitary kinds of things. somebody still has to do that job, though. >> marco rubio, emigration, and the future of republican politics. >> are we serious about border security and employment verification? are we serious about making this the last last time we have this conversation? or are we simply playing political games with people's lives and undercutting respect for the rule of law, the very reason they seaek to come to ths country in the first place? >> that is a congressman from south carolina on the house border security subcommittee. a long time
[laughter] on the subject of the hearings, john brennan and chuck hagel, they stand in stark contrast. whatever one thinks about john brennan, and the disagreements are real, he was in command, knowledgeable, assertive, direct, and he made his own case. would that chuck hagel had the same level -- >> talk about our jobs, he has been lord high executioner -- >> and he wants to move it to the military. >> brennan does want to get the cia back into the business of collecting...
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them have their war in iran and that is their problem with chuck hagel. >> i think our brains are connected, i say that again joy, you're so smart. because i agree with your words as you speak them, they're brilliant. i'm serious. i'm patronizing, i think you're unbelievable. i keep hearing my brain talk. thank you, joy reed. thank you david cornyn. >>> coming up, it's hoil's last d hillary clinton's last day in the state department. the first day of the rest of her life, it may well include a run for president in 2016. there are plenty of democrats waiting for her to say i do. >>> also, men behaving badly. we showed you john mccain and lindsay graham's rude behavior. and they're hardly alone. the lesson that many of the gop seem to have learned from 2012 is, if you want to stop losing elections, just keep doing exactly what you've been doing. >>> the documentary "the gatekeepers" a fascinating look at the members of israel's security agency. the interesting job of dealing with palestinians in the occupied territories. they're a lot more like barack obama than like benjamin netanyahu. >>> l
them have their war in iran and that is their problem with chuck hagel. >> i think our brains are connected, i say that again joy, you're so smart. because i agree with your words as you speak them, they're brilliant. i'm serious. i'm patronizing, i think you're unbelievable. i keep hearing my brain talk. thank you, joy reed. thank you david cornyn. >>> coming up, it's hoil's last d hillary clinton's last day in the state department. the first day of the rest of her life, it may...
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the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck hagel, a nightmare, by the way, whose flashbacks must haunt still the heart still of john sydney mccain. both are msnbc analysts. both of you, sir, and lady, are younger than me, but i must tell you i'm absolutely convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this. he did a long angry windup before he launched into his first so-called question which was really an indictment. it included putdowns as well as references to vietnam. let's listen. >> in january of 2007 in a rather bizarre exchange with secretary rice in the foreign relations co
the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck...
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here is chuck hagel in vietnam back in '68 when he went in. he was an enlisted soldier and rose to sergeant. a noncommissioned officer with the infantry, a grunt as they used to say in vietnam. this is navy pilot john mccain with his squadron in 1965 before he was captured. hagel made reference to the vantage point an enlisted man has in war. >> i saw it from the bottom. i saw what happens. i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, is this going to be worth the sacrifice, because there will be sacrifice. in the surge case in iraq, we lost almost 1,200 dead americans during that surge and thousands of wounded. now, was it required? was it necessary? senator mccain has his own opinion on that shared by others. i'm not sure. i'm not that certain that it was required. >> you know, the horror of vietnam, where i wasn't -- i always point that out -- the guys who were, into the jungle, fighting an enemy you couldn't see. there were no p.o.w.s in the jungle wars. they didn't t
here is chuck hagel in vietnam back in '68 when he went in. he was an enlisted soldier and rose to sergeant. a noncommissioned officer with the infantry, a grunt as they used to say in vietnam. this is navy pilot john mccain with his squadron in 1965 before he was captured. hagel made reference to the vantage point an enlisted man has in war. >> i saw it from the bottom. i saw what happens. i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always...
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senator lindsay graham is making news saying he wants to put a hold on the chuck hagel and john brennan nominations until he finds out more about what the president was doing the night of benghazi attack. >> i was in the hearing last week in the morning with secretary panetta and general dempsey and they were asked what the president knew and they answered clearly. they were meeting with him at 5:00 and just got word about benghazi. they informed him and he said essentially deploy whatever resources we have to in order to deal with it. >> do you think that was enough? >> well, senator graham's question was did he call later or what did he do? i'm not sure -- they're fair questions, but to put a -- i'm not a fan of one senator holding up a presidential nomination. if he wants to make his argument on the floor of the senate, have an up or down vote because those are important jobs. it's not going to help us in the c.i.a. or defense to not have the new nominees in there. so i'm entirely supportive of senator graham's opportunity to raise the questions but he should have put the hold on joh
senator lindsay graham is making news saying he wants to put a hold on the chuck hagel and john brennan nominations until he finds out more about what the president was doing the night of benghazi attack. >> i was in the hearing last week in the morning with secretary panetta and general dempsey and they were asked what the president knew and they answered clearly. they were meeting with him at 5:00 and just got word about benghazi. they informed him and he said essentially deploy...
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it was this really ham-handed fake effort to look like liberals were opposing chuck hagel, but nobody believed them and they stayed anonymous and never came out of the closet and said who they were. so no opposition on the democratic side of the aisle. no opposition on the left, except for the fake thing. and that means that the republicans would have to do something historically unprecedented and truly radical if they are going to stop chuck hagel's nomination. filibusters a cabinet nominee? unprecedented in modern times. now, they might try it. but it will be a huge deal if they did. a huge enough deal that it might even finally prompt the democrats to change the filibuster rules. so it's not likely. now, if you are looking for a high profile national security obama second term nominee who really might have some interesting opposition, who really might have some opposition from the democratic side, if not even from the left, it's not chuck hagel. obviously, it's not john kerry. the guy you are looking for is the one who is up this week. on thursday of this week, president obama's no
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this was basically chuck hagel supporting the president's policy on iran containment. after he says that, he goes, by the way, i just have been handed the note. i meant to say obviously his position on containment. we don't have a position on containment, so i recognize i had more attention paid to my words the last eight weeks than i ever thought possible. what i thought was interesting here is containment was the framework for 50 years of american foreign policy and the cold war. >> containment is our policy on iran. we've been containing iran. that's exactly what we've been doing and it's exactly what we would do if they got nuclear weapons. hagel has been consistent. since 2001, he has advocated direct talks with iran. the thing that distinguishes him is he's somebody who likes to listen. he likes to ask questions. i had a trip to iran in december 2001. i was asked to come in and brief him on this trip. it was a snowstorm in washington, d.c. congress was essentially shut down. i went through the snow. there he was and he asked me questions for an hour about things
this was basically chuck hagel supporting the president's policy on iran containment. after he says that, he goes, by the way, i just have been handed the note. i meant to say obviously his position on containment. we don't have a position on containment, so i recognize i had more attention paid to my words the last eight weeks than i ever thought possible. what i thought was interesting here is containment was the framework for 50 years of american foreign policy and the cold war. >>...
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the white house expects the senate to confirm chuck hagel as the next secretary of state despite the cuff grilling he got on yesterday's hearing. so far just one of his fellow republicans is publicly supporting him. it takes but one senator to block the nomination which really would make this a much tougher fight. mike emanuel is in d.c. what are you hearing from republicans tonight, mike? >> shep, multiple senators have told me chuck hagel did not help his cause with his performance at yesterday's hearing. they seem to think he will likely get confirmed based on the strength of democratic support. >> i think for cabinet office, 51 votes is generally considered the right standard for the senate to set and at that level, i think he makes it but i don't think he makes it with a lot of room to spare. >> a filibuster is possible. but a leading republican senator tells me he doubts it will succeed because enough g.o.p. members believe hagel deserves a vote, shep. >> shepard: any signs of any democrats bailing after that hearing? >> i'm told by leadership aids democratic support for hagel
the white house expects the senate to confirm chuck hagel as the next secretary of state despite the cuff grilling he got on yesterday's hearing. so far just one of his fellow republicans is publicly supporting him. it takes but one senator to block the nomination which really would make this a much tougher fight. mike emanuel is in d.c. what are you hearing from republicans tonight, mike? >> shep, multiple senators have told me chuck hagel did not help his cause with his performance at...
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hagel at his confirmation hearing i think it is fair to say you gave him a real going over about his opposition about the iraq troop surge in 2007. let's take a look at that. >> were you correct or incorrect? yes, or no. >> my reference to -- >> can you answer the question, senator hagel. the question is were you right or wrong? >> chris: i got a question for you. how are you going to vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have some more information but again that wasn't an academic discussion i was having with senator hagel. we were losing the war in 2006 and when the president came around president bush who i had been very critical of came around and sent david petraeus and the surge we succeeded in iraq. now, because of the obama administration actions afterwards we are losing and badly unraveling. the fact is if we hadn't done that more american lives would have been lost unnecessarily. so for then senator hagel to say well, he will let history be the judge. he was there and involved and i'm sure he is wrong and he knows he is wrong on the basis of the facts of what happened.
hagel at his confirmation hearing i think it is fair to say you gave him a real going over about his opposition about the iraq troop surge in 2007. let's take a look at that. >> were you correct or incorrect? yes, or no. >> my reference to -- >> can you answer the question, senator hagel. the question is were you right or wrong? >> chris: i got a question for you. how are you going to vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have some more information but again...
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now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell has held off right now on saying if that's an option for them. it's a big question. i think you've seen a lot of other nominees get blocked. certainly richard cordray, the appointee for the consumer financial protection bureau is not going anywhere right now. but the opposition to this kind of appointment of chuck hagel, someone who i think a lot of voters throughout the country weren't as aware of like someone like susan rice ace different question here. >> speaking of john mccain moving on to you, alice, let's take a look at these tense
now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the...
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john mccain tried to humiliate nominee chuck hagel. and this is just the beginning. >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel. the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> but karma caught up with mccain quickly. about an hour after that, he berated hagel. here's how rand paul reacted to mccain's comments. let's listen. >> i find the argument spurious and really frankly absurd. >> on laura ingram's radio show, louisiana senator marco rubi on the emigration issue. >> i love and respect marco, i think he's amazingly naive. >> wow, in other words, he cares about hispanics. in a colossal put down, chris chistie hung the blame for post-sandy suffering squarely on republicans. >> there's only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims. the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. >> you know, joy, this was an old democratic problem. >> yes. >> it was called democrats in disarray. you could put it up on every newspaper, every evening news show. >> you
john mccain tried to humiliate nominee chuck hagel. and this is just the beginning. >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel. the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> but karma caught up with mccain quickly. about an hour after that, he berated hagel. here's how rand paul reacted to mccain's comments. let's listen. >> i find the argument spurious and really frankly absurd. >> on laura ingram's radio show,...
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because we know that there was some concern about the way chuck hagel performed. how does the white house feel about how things went with mr. brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more information put forward in terms of when these drone strikes occur if civilians are injured. this hearing for mr. brennan also sort of placated a lot of democrats on that committee because the white house released papers from the department of justice explaining the legal rationale behind the drone strikes. so overall, the feel something that john brennan performed admirably, that he will move forward and he will be a good director of the cia. they felt that the committee hearing went as well as it could be. what's interesting, martin, john brennan has 25 years experience at the cia and th
because we know that there was some concern about the way chuck hagel performed. how does the white house feel about how things went with mr. brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more...
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the senate yet to vote on the designated chuck hagel and president warning that the defense department faces major major cuts and disruption if the sequester goes through as its scheduled to on march 1st. all big issues regarding the pentagon and that's her beat her new beat at politico pro, juana summers in studio with us defense reporter now for politico pro coming off of the hot campaign trail where we often talk to you, juana. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> do you like your new beat? >> never a dull moment. i don't think i got a vacation in between the two. it's out of the frying pan into the fire. >> bill: you are right in the middle of the fire right now. let's start with chuck hagle. a couple of republicans now come out and said they are going to vote for him. john mccain saying he would oppose any filibuster on his confirmation vote. >> it seems michael. there aren't. lined see gram of south carolina has indicated he would like to see president obama nominate someone else and chuck hagel's name removed for contention but there is no one saying they are going to filibus
the senate yet to vote on the designated chuck hagel and president warning that the defense department faces major major cuts and disruption if the sequester goes through as its scheduled to on march 1st. all big issues regarding the pentagon and that's her beat her new beat at politico pro, juana summers in studio with us defense reporter now for politico pro coming off of the hot campaign trail where we often talk to you, juana. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> do you like...
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the senate could work this week on the chuck hagel nomination. the question remains whether or not republicans will block the nomination with a filibuster. the president traveling to push for slacker gun laws. with the nation focusing on the super bowl, we want to turn to washington's role on regulating the nfl. we will use super bowl sunday to talk about government regulations when it comes to the issue of steroids or head injuries. the phone lines are open. let's begin with a look at some of the headlines courtesy of the museum. from "the san francisco chronicle" -- from "the baltimore sun" -- let's turn to the politics and policy behind the nfl. this is a story a few days ago from "the washington post." outlining a plan and a letter to the executive director of the players union. they agreed as part of a 2011 collective bargaining agreement that the players should be tested for hgh, but the two sides of that agreed. two seasons have been played without it. last weekend in new orleans, roger goodell was asked a number of questions including one
the senate could work this week on the chuck hagel nomination. the question remains whether or not republicans will block the nomination with a filibuster. the president traveling to push for slacker gun laws. with the nation focusing on the super bowl, we want to turn to washington's role on regulating the nfl. we will use super bowl sunday to talk about government regulations when it comes to the issue of steroids or head injuries. the phone lines are open. let's begin with a look at some of...
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. >> chris: then there is the president's nominee, former senator chuck hagel, at his confirmation hearing, it is fair to say you gave him a real going-over about his opposition to the iraq troop surge in 2007. let's look at that: >> we are correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the -- >> answer the question, senator hagel. the question is: were you right or wrong? >> chris: i have a question for you, how will you vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have more information, but, again, that was not be a academic discussion i was having with him. we were losing the war in 2006. and, when the president came around, bush, who i had been very critical of, sent david petraeus and the surge, we succeeded in iraq and now, because of the obama administration's action afterwards we are losing, very badly unraveling, but the fact is the we hadn't done that more american lives would have been lost unnecessarily. so, for then senator hagel to say, well, he'll let history be the judge, he was there and involved. and i'm sure he is wrong and knows he's wrong on the base of the fact of w
. >> chris: then there is the president's nominee, former senator chuck hagel, at his confirmation hearing, it is fair to say you gave him a real going-over about his opposition to the iraq troop surge in 2007. let's look at that: >> we are correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the -- >> answer the question, senator hagel. the question is: were you right or wrong? >> chris: i have a question for you, how will you vote on the hagel nomination? >>...
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members of the senate armed services committee decided to delay the vote on former senator chuck hagel. that's after republicans demanded more information. several senators want more details on hagel's business dealings and the content of past speeches. democrats say the move is just political posturing, and they fully expect hagel to be confirmed. >>> it could be a grueling day for president obama's pick to head the cia. john brennan will face tough questions from democrats and republicans during his confirmation hearing. brennan, the president's chief counterterrorism adviser, is under scrutiny for the administration's use of drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists overseas. the senate intelligence committee will also likely grill him over his support for the bush administration's interrogation policies. brennan served in the cia under president george w. bush. >>> members of the senate intelligence committee will soon learn more about the obama administration's drone program. the white house says the justice department sent classified advice about the program to the senate and ho
members of the senate armed services committee decided to delay the vote on former senator chuck hagel. that's after republicans demanded more information. several senators want more details on hagel's business dealings and the content of past speeches. democrats say the move is just political posturing, and they fully expect hagel to be confirmed. >>> it could be a grueling day for president obama's pick to head the cia. john brennan will face tough questions from democrats and...
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he also answered questions about the secretary nominee chuck hagel, unemployment figures and steven chu. this is 45 minutes. >> you better tell us a joke. >> no way. that was too good. i can't tell you that one. right? good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. happy friday. i have no questions -- i mean, i have no announcements so i'll straight g straight to questions. i do -- you probably have in your inbox a statement from the president on steven chu's departure. as you know, the president, if you've read it, thanks secretary chu for his dedicated service on behalf of the american people. as a nobel prize-winning physicist or scientist, steve brought to the energy department a unique understanding of both the urgent challenge presented by climate change and the tremendous opportunity that clean energy represents for our country. this again is the president speaking. during his time as secretary, steve helped my administration move america toward real energy independence. over the past four years we have doubled the use of renewable energy, dramatically reduced our dependence on foreign oi
he also answered questions about the secretary nominee chuck hagel, unemployment figures and steven chu. this is 45 minutes. >> you better tell us a joke. >> no way. that was too good. i can't tell you that one. right? good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. happy friday. i have no questions -- i mean, i have no announcements so i'll straight g straight to questions. i do -- you probably have in your inbox a statement from the president on steven chu's departure. as you know, the...
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that vote on chuck hagel's confirmation will not take place tomorrow. we'll see what happens. >>> here in the united states, the most insulting gesture you can make towards anyone involves very often your middle finger. but in the middle east, it's throwing your shoe at somebody. the sole of your shoe touches all of the filth so showing your shoe at someone makes you think think that they are just as bad as all of that filth or worse. president bush had a shoe thrown at him in baghdad. or earlier iraqis slapped a statue of suddam hussein. the latest to have a shoe thrown at him is ahmadinejad in egypt. >> there are probably worst insalts but throwing a shoe at someone is one of the big ones. it means throwing dirt, filth and whatever else you may have stepped on at someone you don't like and that's exactly what happened to iranian president ahmadinejad when visiting a moss mosque. it's difficult to see exactly what happened. but if you look closely, you see president ahmadinejad walking through a large crowd, greeting people. all of a sudden, you see so
that vote on chuck hagel's confirmation will not take place tomorrow. we'll see what happens. >>> here in the united states, the most insulting gesture you can make towards anyone involves very often your middle finger. but in the middle east, it's throwing your shoe at somebody. the sole of your shoe touches all of the filth so showing your shoe at someone makes you think think that they are just as bad as all of that filth or worse. president bush had a shoe thrown at him in baghdad....
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hagel the week before. he was far more confident, far more informed, authoritative. but this is the first time it was ever debated, the subject. i mean it's gone undebated. and i have to concede that much of the criticism, i think from conservative press is absolutely valid. if this were george w. bush and dick cheney and we had increased by sixfold the number of unmanned attacks on other countries that are not combatant countries, that were not at war with, there would have been far more hue and cry. and it is interesting that the president, the only criticism in the president seems to be among a few liberals, and the support seems to be from people like john bolton-- and so it's a debate i think we have to have, we should have and it's been cloaked in secrecy and secrecy is the sacrosanct secular religion of this city. >> woodruff: so this has stirred it up? >> i think so, because of the leaked memo and the system, we are having a debate about drones. and i guess if i want a drone policy i want it run by
hagel the week before. he was far more confident, far more informed, authoritative. but this is the first time it was ever debated, the subject. i mean it's gone undebated. and i have to concede that much of the criticism, i think from conservative press is absolutely valid. if this were george w. bush and dick cheney and we had increased by sixfold the number of unmanned attacks on other countries that are not combatant countries, that were not at war with, there would have been far more hue...
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all criticism with more extreme behavior like you saw, for example, in the confirmation hearing of chuck hagel would essentially tried to pillory him and turned into a terrorist supporter, just like the council and we heard from earlier, because he questioned the actions, but i think the harm that comes from suppressing the debate over israel and that comes from the steadfast line support for the israeli government by the u.s. has become so obvious, that more and more people are not openly questioning these issues. i think you see in the me a much greater tolerance for entertaining a wider range of yous. i think the internet and shows like yours have shown that by [indiscernible] just a few years ago, these ideas were considered taboo. i think things are headed in the right direction. i think those defending this is indicative of that. years ago it would have been very lonely but now it is much more mainstream position. >> thank you both for being with us, omar barghouti, one of the founding members of bds, non- violent campaign to boycott, divest, sanction israel until it complies with
all criticism with more extreme behavior like you saw, for example, in the confirmation hearing of chuck hagel would essentially tried to pillory him and turned into a terrorist supporter, just like the council and we heard from earlier, because he questioned the actions, but i think the harm that comes from suppressing the debate over israel and that comes from the steadfast line support for the israeli government by the u.s. has become so obvious, that more and more people are not openly...